File For All to See

The OBA Civil Litigation Section recently held a Continuing Legal Education seminar on the deemed undertaking rule (Rule 31.1.01(3)) and the filing of transcripts.  For those who have not had a chance to listen to our (excellent, eloquent!) podcast on this point, here is the abridged version:

Practitioners of all stripes can take solace in the fact absent a sealing Order granted under s. 137(2) of the Courts of Justice Act http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90c43_e.htm , once a transcript is filed with court by any party, it is accessible to the public notwithstanding the Deemed Undertaking Rule.  This extends to transcripts filed in support of motions, including motions to challenge a refusal to answer.  This public access principle is to be strictly applied, according to Justice Cullity's recent decision in Lewis v. Cantertrot Investments Ltd., [2007] O.J. No. 4201 (S.C.J.).

Parties to a motion may merely list a transcript along with all other relevant documents: R. 37.10(2)).  But the transcript - meaning the entire transcript - must be filed at least two days before the hearing by the party relying on it: Rule 34.18(2).  Since the consent of all parties is required to file a partial transcript (R. 38.18(3)), in practical terms the filing party itself vetoes whether a partial transcript is filed. 

After a transcript is filed, the onus is on the examinee to seek a sealing Order.  The test for a sealing Order laid down by the Supreme Court of Canada in Deganais v. Canadian Broadcasting Corp., [1994] 3 S.C.R. 835 (S.C.C.) and restated in R. v. Mentuck, [2001] 442 (S.C.C.) is very strict, however.  For an application of this test, see the recent case of Moore v. Bertuzzi , [2007] O.J. No. 5113, where a sealing Order was denied to the applicant defendant.

Conclude your review of this interesting set of principles with Rule 34.18(4), which states the Judge  "may read only the portions to which a party refers": R. 34.18(4).  So the public right to access extends to the entire transcript though the Judge only reads a portion of it. 

Another good reason to avoid trials where possible.

Chris Graham

Application for Opinion, Advice, or Direction vs. Application for Direction

As this is the beginning of the week, I would like to take this opportunity to visit two of the rules from the Rules of Civil Procedure, which are frequently used by estate litigators.

Rule 14.05(3)(a) states that "a proceeding may be brought by application where these rules authorize the commencement of a proceeding by application or where the relief claimed is, the opinion, advice or direction of the court on a question affecting the rights of a person in respect of the administration of the estate of a deceased person or the execution of a trust".  In contrast, Rule 75.06(1) states that "any person who appears to have a financial interest in an estate may apply for directions … as to the procedure for bringing any matter before the court".

It is clear from the language of these rules that an Applicant may use either rule to apply for directions from the court.  The difference between the two rules lies in the relief that the Applicant seeks. 

Rule 14.05(3)(a) is a substantive remedy that addresses the rights of a person with respect to the administration of an estate or the execution of a trust.  Therefore an Applicant who relies on Rule 14.05(3)(a), is asking the court to make a determination of his or her rights in the context of an estate.  For example, whether or not an Applicant has an interest under the deceased's Last  Will and Testament.

Rule 75.06(1) is a procedural remedy.  In essence, Rule 75.06(1) provides the road-map for "any matter before the court".  Therefore an Applicant who utilizes Rule 75.06(1) may seek a court order that permits the disclosure of relevant documents to their matter and establish time-lines for the completion of a specific phase in their court proceeding.  For example, the court may decide that mediation should be completed within 90 days and as such, include a mediation clause in a court order.

In summary, both rules can may be used to apply to the court for direction, however with Rule 14.05 (3)(a), the Applicant is asking the court for a specific answer to a question affecting his or her rights, whereas with Rule 75.06(1), the Applicant is requesting that the court provide them with a guideline to their court proceeding.

Have a Great Day!


Rick Bickhram

Experts in Estate Matters - Hull on Estates #94

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This week on Hull on Estates, Craig Vander Zee and Sarah Fitzpatrick discuss expert evidence in estate matters. In this episode they outline circumstances when one should use expert evidence, different types of experts, timing of reports, limitations of experts and the court appointed expert.

Experts in Estate Matters - Hull on Estates Podcast #94

Posted on January 22nd, 2008 by Hull & Hull LLP

 

Sarah Fitzpatrick:  Hi and welcome to Hull on Estates.  You are listening to Episode #94 of our podcast on Tuesday, January 22nd, 2008.

 

Welcome to Hull on Estates, a series of podcasts for the Canadian legal community dealing with issues and insights surrounding estate planning in Canada.   Hosted by the lawyers of Hull & Hull, the podcast will touch on some key considerations when planning estates and Wills.  Now, here are today’s hosts.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  How are you today Sarah?

 

Sarah Fitzpatrick:  I’m fine, thanks Craig. How are you?

 

Craig Vander Zee:  Good. It’s Craig Vander Zee and Sarah Fitzpatrick is with me today. As you well know, I’ve been podcasting with Paul Trudelle the last couple of times, but it is my pleasure, today, to be podcasting with Sarah.

 

Sarah Fitzpatrick:  It’s nice to be here, Craig.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  Have you had a happy new year so far?

 

Sarah Fitzpatrick:  I’ve had a great new year, it’s been busy.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  Yeah?

 

 Sarah Fitzpatrick:  But very nice, how about you?

 

Craig Vander Zee:  Yeah it’s been good. Of course, with hockey and my little guys’ playoffs coming up, it gets a bit busy but it’s fantastic to watch them play.

 

Sarah Fitzpatrick:  Excellent.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  Sarah, today I thought that we would touch upon the topic of expert evidence in the context of an estate proceeding. And there is certainly a bunch of topics that you can deal with. I think for today we won’t touch upon selecting an expert or the expert report itself or perhaps an examination-in-chief or the cross examination of the expert. Maybe today we can focus on issues dealing with perhaps the different kind of experts and the discovery and the timing for the provision of the expert report.

 

Sarah Fitzpatrick:  That’s right, and I think perhaps we could start by talking about the circumstances when you would consider using expert evidence.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  Certainly there are a number of different kinds of experts that could be used in an estate context, and again, you know, we’re dealing with different types of claims. They could be passing of accounts in the context of a trust, it could be in the context of an estate, it could be a dependant support claim, it could be a will challenge or other types of estate and trust related proceedings. It could be a guardianship application and there’s medical experts that are required. So there are a number and wide range of experts that you could have. But perhaps we could comment on a couple of them in the context of focusing on assets. And certainly you might have someone assess whether investments in an estate or trust were handled prudently, assess the performance of an investment portfolio, the management of assets in general, evaluation of a current asset. Or perhaps you’re unravelling a family company that was used as a family bank, again in the context of an estate passing of accounts. And there are certainly others.

 

Sarah Fitzpatrick:  Right.  That’s right Craig. Some others as well might be the income potential of an asset, the invested rate of return of specific assets. There can be tax issues as well as forensic accounting issues to consider.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  And again, we’re not leaving out the need in certain types of proceedings such as a will challenge, where capacity is in dispute, of medical experts, or psychiatric experts, to deal with the issues in those cases.

 

Sarah Fitzpatrick:  That’s right.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  Now when you do have an expert, it’s critical that you consider the timing for retaining the expert. And part of the reason for that being a factor in your proceeding is that you have to be mindful as to the disclosure requirements at an Examination for Discovery, if there’s going to be Examinations for Discovery in your particular proceeding. And Rule 31.06 of the Rules of Civil Procedure deals with that very aspect.

 

Sarah Fitzpatrick:  They have been defined, Craig, as the findings, opinions and conclusions. It includes such things as notes, data, research, calculations and documents that can be used by the experts to prepare the report.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  Right and when you’re considering that, sort of going back to what the disclosure could be, it’s the findings,  opinions and conclusions of that expert engaged by or on behalf of your client that relate to the issue, okay.  And knowing what findings, opinions and conclusions might mean, you would want to know whether it’s going to be an obligation that you provide those to the other side. Because if you have an expert report that you don’t intend to rely on, you don’t want to disclose that to the other side. So the Rules…if you can help it at all, and certainly within the confines of the rules. So the Rules also allow you not to disclose the information, that is, not to disclose findings, opinions and conclusions, where the findings, opinions and conclusions of the expert were formed in preparation of contemplated litigation or pending litigation and…and that’s the key part…and you undertake not to call the witness at trial. So, practically speaking, your client is getting examined, and as counsel, you would be there with them at the examination and you’re being asked these questions regarding the expert. And typically, and certainly it’s my practice, that the client would not be answering questions on the expert evidence, that I would be dealing with those questions. And if there was an expert report that we were relying on and we were bound by the Rules to give the findings, opinions and conclusions, then we would deal with that appropriately. But if we weren’t, that’s when we would also have to undertake not to call that witness at trial.

 

Sarah Fitzpatrick:  That’s right Craig.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  Having considered how the expert’s findings, opinions and conclusions might be dealt with at a discovery, and how you might be able to avoid, within the confines of the Rules, of having to reveal or disclose those findings, opinions and conclusions if you don’t have any intention of calling them as a witness, it’s important to consider the service requirements for an expert report because it’s critical that they be delivered in the time provided by the Rules.

 

Sarah Fitzpatrick:  That’s right. So when thinking about service requirements, it is Rule 53 of the Rules of Civil Procedure that deals with this. And specifically, that Rule provides that you have 90 days before the commencement of trial for the person serving the report to serve that on the other side. And there are other time restrictions as well. The person responding to that expert report then has 60 days before the commencement of trial to serve on the other party their expert report.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  Essentially it breaks down into really three critical time periods, as you’ve mentioned, Sarah. And really the first one is 90 days before the commencement of a trial, if you’re serving your report. And then there’s the responding report, as you mentioned, 60 days, at least, before.

 

Sarah Fitzpatrick:  That’s right.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  And then 30 days if you’re doing a reply report. And where it’s critical is that if you miss these time periods as a matter of right, you may find yourself not being in a position of controlling whether the expert report gets in. And by that, I mean if you miss these time periods, the Rules indicate that, subject to another Rule, that is, that grants leave to allow the report to be filed, you may not file that report. So you move from a situation where you have a right and can file the report, assuming that it’s a proper report. You go from a situation where you had a right to enter it, to a situation where you’re not allowed to enter it, unless the Court gives you leave or the other side consents. And if the other side were to consent then that would…then certainly the report would be able to go in. But if you find yourself in a situation where you’ve not complied with the Rules with respect to the service of the report, there is still hope. Rule 53.08 allows for the service of the report in situations where the Court grants leave. And the leave shall be granted on such terms as are just with an adjournment unless, and here’s the key, unless to do so will cause prejudice to the opposite party or will cause undue delay in the conduct of the trial. So in most cases, those last two hurdles can be jumped. But in certain circumstances, perhaps if it was on the eve of trial or during trial that you wanted to have an expert report, you may find a situation where the judge is not prepared to do that. The one caveat with all of that is that the phrase “on terms that are just” usually means cost consequences. And so…but if you file an expert report outside of the time periods allowed, you may find that if the other party isn’t going to consent to it being admitted and filed with the Court…sorry, to allowing the expert report to be received and then having the expert called to trial, you may find yourself facing a cost award that would have to be explained to the client. And so that would obviously…is a situation you want to avoid in every circumstance, if possible.

 

Sarah Fitzpatrick:  The practical matter you should also bear in mind when serving the expert report there are a few key considerations to include. You need to include the CV of the expert. The report should be signed by the expert and needs to include the experts name and address and well as his or her base of qualifications.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  So now that we know when to serve the report and we know how it’s going to be dealt with in examination for discovery at least in terms of the scope, we should be mindful as to the number of experts at a trial.

 

Sarah Fitzpatrick:  Right and they are actually limited to 3 on each side. If the party intends to call more than 3 it’s important to give notice of one’s intention to call more than those 3 that are allowed.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  Well that’s right and in section 12 of the Ontario Evidence Act covers that off, Sarah. And having said that though, there is some debate whether the limitation of 3 witnesses is in respect of 3 experts on the same issue, or 3 experts in total on each side. But as you said, to ensure that you, at least, can address the issue, you put the other side on notice.  And if you’re certainly within the time periods, that is, if you’re delivering 3 reports and they are 6 months in advance of the trial, there is a better chance of being able to deal with the issue and trying to work it out, or at least have the issue dealt with before trial, so that you know what your situation is going into the trial, rather than leaving it to a time period when it’s perhaps not as practical to deal with the issues or may have cost consequences.

 

Sarah Fitzpatrick:  Good point, Craig. One last thing that we would like to touch on today is the issue of the Court appointed expert.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  Well, here’s a situation where the Court actually does the appointing of the expert, as the name to the Rule would indicate. It’s really 52.03 of the Rules of Civil Procedure. And what this Rule allows is on motion, or on the judge’s…motion by a party, or on the judge’s own initiative, the Court appoints an expert report in the situation. And it could be that each side has an expert on a matter, both seem to be equally qualified, perhaps even equal in terms of their experience and credibility, but have completely different findings.  And maybe the Court wants another expert to come in and deal with it. It could very well be that the expert reports in a particular case are unsatisfactory. Maybe they don’t address all the issues and the judge feels rather than having the parties go out and agree to get further expert reports, that it’s just easier for the Court to take charge of the issue. And what the Court would typically do is make an order that would deal with the content of that report in a sense of what the issue is going to be. But it would also include how the expert is going to get paid, you know, with respect to the preparation of the report, the daily attendance in Court for that expert, who should bear the cost of the report itself and would also touch upon typically directions regarding the delivery of the report to the parties, and the potential cross-examination of that expert by those parties. And so the order wouldn’t be in a vacuum, it would be in a situation that would have directions with it so that there is a clear understanding as to what that expert is supposed to do, what he or she is to be paid and the availability of that expert for cross- examination by the parties so they have ample opportunity before going into trial of testing the evidence of that expert.

 

And I think with that, we’ve ended our discussion today, Sarah. I think next time we’ll touch upon, as I mentioned at the beginning of the podcast today, what you might consider in selecting an expert, the report itself, and if we have time during that podcast, items that you might consider when cross-examining or doing an examination-in-chief of the expert. I can say that it has been a real pleasure podcasting with you today. I wouldn’t know it, that this was your very first podcast. And I look forward to our next.

 

Sarah Fitzpatrick:  Well thanks Craig, I look forward to our next one as well.

 

This has been Hull on Estates with the lawyers of Hull & Hull.  The podcast you have been listening to has been provided as an information service.  It is a summary of current legal issues in estates and estate planning.  It is not legal advice and you are reminded to always talk with a legal professional regarding your specific circumstances.

 

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Preparing for Trials in the Context of Contested Passing of Accounts - Hull on Estates #88

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In this podcast, Craig Vander Zee and Paul Trudelle discuss trial preparation considerations in the context of a contested passing of accounts.

Preparing for Trials in the Context of Contested Passing of Accounts - Hull on Estates Podcast #88

Posted on December 4th, 2007 by Hull & Hull LLP

 

Paul Trudelle:  Hi and welcome to Hull on Estates.  You’re listening to Episode #88 on Tuesday, December 4th.

 

Welcome to Hull on Estates, a series of podcasts for the Canadian legal community dealing with issues and insights surrounding estate planning in Canada.   Hosted by the lawyers of Hull & Hull, the podcast will touch on some key considerations when planning estates and Wills.  Now, here are today’s hosts.

 

Paul Trudelle:  Hi Craig, how are you today?

 

Craig Vander Zee:  Good Paul, yourself?

 

Paul Trudelle:  Very good, thanks.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  Have you done your holiday shopping yet?

 

Paul Trudelle:  No, not at all.  That’s, that’s what Christmas Eve is for.  We were talking before…

 

Craig Vander Zee:  I hope you’re…wife has different thoughts on that.

 

Paul Trudelle:  Yeah, well I hope so too, she won’t be listening to this one.  We were talking before we started recording today about passing of accounts and how it’s very common these days to see accounts being prepared and passed.  And that often is where things end.  With a proper passing, questions can be raised, objections raised and they can be dealt with there.  But sometimes, as we’ve talked about, a trial is necessary.  So we thought today we’d talk a bit about preparing for trials in the context of contested passings of accounts.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  Perhaps, you know, said a different way too, with the onset of contested passings, its very regular or common that they can be resolved to everyone’s satisfaction at a pre-trial stage.  But there are certain passings, perhaps because of the size of the estate, perhaps because of the involvement of the specific parties, perhaps because of the complexity of the estate and the issues that arise from that, a contested passing can only be dealt with by way of a trial.  And there’s a number of issues that we could all consider in preparing for trial.  And again, trial preparation doesn’t begin after the pre-trial conference and before trial.  It really begins when you meet with your client and you’re identifying the issues, you’re deciding how you’re going to prove your case and how you’re going to marshall the evidence.  Because how you go about that process will ultimately leave you in a position well prepared or not so well prepared, or perhaps not as well prepared as you wanted to be, prior to trial.  So, it’s important to be mindful of a trial and the preparation that you will need for that, as you’re dealing with each of the pre-trial stages.

 

Paul Trudelle:  I think that’s a very fair comment.  I think everything that we do along the road in handling a file can be considered trial preparation, from the initial file meeting to how you set up the discussions with your client, the obtaining of evidence, identifying issues, and I think that just the sheer scope of the issues that the Court can deal with on a passing, often give rise to contentious matters that can’t be dealt with simply by way of an accounting, and a trial is necessary.  But I think everything we should be doing should be with an eye towards trial, and at the same time, an eye towards avoiding that trial through obtaining proper answers through resolving the issues along the way.  But I think the backdrop has to be the trial preparation.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  Certainly, when you’re formulating your strategy, even on a preliminary basis, it’s got to be in one’s mindset.  And albeit that a trial strategy can’t really be finalized until you’ve had the ability to marshall all the evidence and have a thorough review and careful review of the evidence to know where your client stands particularly on all the issues, certainly the mind’s eye needs to be on the trial preparation when the strategy is formulated.

 

Paul Trudelle:  That’s right.  And I think the solicitor has to always be aware of what is he going or she going to be able to prove in Court and how are they going to prove that in Court, if it gets there.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  With all of that said, Paul, I think the first place to start with is the parties themselves.  Are all the parties who ought to be involved in the passing actually involved, and if so, whether any of the parties that are involved need representation that don’t already have it.  It could very well be the case that at the beginning of a contested passing, for example, there was no one with a disability.  But if the passing, because of discovery stages, takes quite some time, perhaps there’s a party now, a beneficiary of the estate, who’s become disabled or is no longer capable and in some way needs representation that didn’t have it prior to that. 

 

So there are a number of questions that you can ask in dealing with this issue, some of which are again, are any of the parties self-represented, and if so, have they been notified of all of the critical steps along the way.  Has anyone filed a Notice of No Objection, has anyone filed a Statement of Submission of Rights, and if so pursuant to the Rules of Civil Procedure, they’re entitled to notification of the time and date of the trial, even if they’ve submitted their rights.   Is a minor involved, and if so, is the Children’s Lawyer involved, and again, is there an adult who is disabled or perhaps is there a representation Order necessary pursuant to Rule 10 of the Rules of Civil Procedure.  So there are a bunch of questions you can ask dealing with the issue in respect of parties.

 

Paul Trudelle:  I think that net has to be cast as wide as possible from the outset.  There’s nothing more embarrassing than getting to Court only to have a judge say, what about beneficiary A or potential beneficiary B?  Where are they?  Why haven’t they been notified of this?  Is this person, or are there minor interests that should be identified and the Children’s Lawyer put on notice?  That sort of thing.  It’s best to get that dealt with from the earliest stage possible, and also be aware, as you said, that the status of parties may change as time goes on and it may be that the representation will have to change as a result of that.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  It could very well be that the Children’s Lawyer is representing a minor at the beginning of a contested passing and the minor becomes 18 years of age during it, and as such, the Children’s Lawyer may not have jurisdiction anymore to represent that minor and that minor would then become an unrepresented party unless they get their own representation.  So there are certainly are ways where representation issues can come into play.

 

Paul Trudelle:  Similarly, that child may become an adult, but adults may become incapable as time goes on, especially if it’s a long, drawn out piece of litigation, in which case, other representation may need to be brought in.  So assuming we have all of the proper parties at the table and everyone has filed their Notice of Objection or submitted their rights to Court or indicated they are not taking any part in the proceedings, once we’ve gone through the pre-trial steps and we want it to get to trial, we need to set it down for trial. 

 

The process for setting it down for trial is set out in the Rules.  It may also be covered by the Order giving directions that the parties obtain before the litigation is started.  Rule 48 deals with setting matters down for trial and what needs to be in the trial record and the parties setting it down for trial should have mind of that, so that the matter can be put onto a trial list and eventually, depending on your jurisdiction, called to trial.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  There are a couple of manners in which a trial may ultimately be scheduled and attended upon.  One of them is, of course as you’ve referred to, by way of Rule 48 of the Rules of Civil Procedure which is a formal service and filing of a trial record.  It could be, though, in a contested passing, if there’s been Orders for directions, or at the pre-trial conference, where there is an Order that the length of the trial is fixed and that the actual date itself is to be set by the Registrar on dates convenient to the parties, and as such, it may not be necessary with contested passings, that a formal Rule 48 process be in place.  But that could very well depend on the location Courthouse and practice of the judges in that area as to which method is preferred.

 

Paul Trudelle:  Right.  Every jurisdiction seems to have their own particular practise.  The order that I normally see, though, is a provision in the Order giving directions setting out how the matter is to be set down for trial, what is to be in the trial record.  The next thing we should talk about then in preparing for trial is getting your documents in order.  I was going to say that in passing of accounts matters, documents are of particular importance.  The accounting is an accounting issue.   It’s usually based on the vouchers that the parties will have to produce and therefore the documentary production is probably paramount when preparing for trial.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  It’s critical, Paul, I agree with you, that the documents need to be organized and need to be organized prior to trial.  The last thing that one wants to see is, you know, the weekend or a week or two weeks even before trial, and organizing the documents and there’s documents missing.  And there may be insufficient time to get copies, to go over copies with witnesses.  So it’s critical in doing trial preparation that the documents themselves be collected and organized far in advance of the trial. 

 

And with a contested passing, some of the documents that you’re going to want to include or have at your fingertips are the Notice of Application, even if the matter has gone by way of pleadings in a certain…like a Statement of Claim or Statement of Defence.  You still want the original Notice of Application.  The estate accounts obviously, Certificate of Appointment, any prior judgment related to the passing even if it’s two or three passings before.  It’s always important to have the record as to when the estate administration started and how many passings there have been.  It could very well be that one of the issues really arose during a prior passing period, and the accounts during that period had been passed. 

 

And so you’d want to be able to prove that to the judge and deal with that.  All Orders regarding the passing of accounts before the Court, all Notices of Objections, all pleadings again, Statements of Submission of Rights.  If the parties have consented or are providing any releases, it could be that some of the parties have consented to the accounts or have released the estate trustee, and any Affidavits of Service regarding any of the documents we have discussed here.  And again, of course, all the vouchers and the documents and the productions that the parties have produced, and being mindful again that production can happen by way of Affidavit of Documents.  It can also be ordered by the Court and it can also be dealt with by agreement of the parties.  So you really want to ensure that whatever the other side is to produce, it has been produced.  And if you’ve been required to produce something, that you do it, so that no adverse inference can be drawn at Court against you that you haven’t produced a document that you want to rely on but haven’t done so, perhaps merely by inadvertence.

 

Paul Trudelle:  Yeah.  And the shopping list that you ran through is very important and it’s something that the Court is going to want, the parties are going to want.  That can normally be put into a compendium or a joint document brief.  I don’t think there’s any issue with respect to the relevance or appropriateness of putting those documents that you’ve referred to before the Court.  And there’s other evidence that we’ll talk about it where it may be a little harder to get before the Court.  But I think the pleadings and the other notices and the position of the parties are all matters that should be before the Court, ideally put before the Court in an organized fashion as part of a joint document brief.  And that’s something that you should, as counsel, or you may want to address at the pre-trial, to make sure that someone is taking care of that and you’re not scrambling the weekend before trial to make sure the other side has done it or you’ve…if you’re objecting, or that you’ve done it as estate trustee.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  Again, you know, part of the manner in which you can succeed at trial is by staying organized and knowing that the judge is following along.  And so again, with the laundry list that I mentioned, leaving aside the documents to be produced and exchanged between the parties, really dealing with the other items which were more or less pleadings, or be classified as pleadings, if they’re set out and perhaps put in a compendium for the judge, then that’s simply going to help the judge along the way and help keep the judge focused on the issues.  One thing, too, with respect to documents, is bearing in mind issues of privilege.  If there are any issues of privilege, perhaps you want to challenge a document that’s listed in Schedule B of the Affidavit of Documents as being privileged, that challenge should take place prior to the commencement of trial.  It could be that counsel haven’t identified the documents in Schedule B and you have asked them to identify that by way of an undertaking and they haven’t done that.  You’d want the answer to that undertaking before trial. 

 

And then another issue that can come up, although not that commonly, but can come up is under Rule 30.09 of the Rules of Civil Procedure.  And that’s where you’ve taken a position that a document is privilege, but you decide that you want to waive that privilege and use it at trial, for whatever the reason might be.  Rule 30.09 says you have to waive that privilege at least 90 days before trial.  And in doing that, you also offer the other side the opportunity to either review the document or you provide a copy to them, so that there’s no surprise to them as to the documents you’re relying on at trial.

 

So while that is not a common situation, it’s one to certainly remember before trial.

 

Paul Trudelle:  Right, and I think the issue of privilege is of particular relevance in a passing of accounts where an estate trustee is relying on solicitor advice or obtaining information with respect to administering the estate and there’s an issue as to whether that document is privileged or whether the beneficiaries are entitled to review that.  I think that’s something that the parties should want to have addressed before it gets to Court and I think the judge would also want that as well.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  And then perhaps lastly today, Paul, we need to always be mindful of the originals in a file.  And certainly there’s issues as to the admissibility of documents, which we’ll talk about next day.  Because certainly the document itself, the contents of it are hearsay and cannot be submitted for the truth of the contents unless there’s an exception or it’s proved by a witness.  We’ll deal with that on a different day.  And the notices that can be used under the Evidence Act to deal with that and how counsel might agree upon the use of documents so as to avoid the time and cost associated with proving the authenticity and contents of documents.  But from the standpoint of the originals of the documents, it’s always important to know what the originals in fact are.  Have they all been reviewed?  And if you don’t have an original, perhaps through inadvertence or perhaps through longevity of administration of an estate, a document has accidentally been lost…the original, that is…there’s copies of it…it’s important to know how and why the originals are no longer available.  So that can be addressed with through the measures that we’re going to talk about next day and that I just mentioned briefly a minute ago. 

 

So again, know the originals, know which originals you have and which you don’t.  And it could very well be that there’s handwriting on the back of an original that wasn’t photocopied because only one side of the document was photocopied.  So it is important to have had the opportunity to go through the originals and get full value of the markings on the document.

 

Paul Trudelle:  I think that’s right.  And we were talking about trial preparation starting when the client first comes into your office.  I think trial preparation may start as soon as the estate trustee takes on the role of estate trustee and may want to ensure that originals are  kept with the…because of the possibility that this may end up in Court and originals will be required if it goes to trial.  That’s quite a bit of information for this podcast.  It may be that…well, we will have to continue this next time.  And that may not be until after, or into the new year.  So I’d like to wish our listeners a happy new year and happy holidays.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  I also would like to take this opportunity to wish you a happy holiday from a podcasting standpoint because I’ll see you tomorrow but... 

 

Paul Trudelle:  I’ll see you tomorrow as well.

 

Craig Vander Zee:  …I won’t see you from a podcasting standpoint until the new year, so I’ll look forward to that and all our podcasts of 2008.

 

This has been Hull on Estates with the lawyers of Hull & Hull.  The podcast you have been listening to has been provided as an information service.  It is a summary of current legal issues in estates and estate planning.  It is not legal advice and you are reminded to always talk with a legal professional regarding your specific circumstances.

 

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During Hull on Estates Podcast #63, Craig Vander Zee and Bianca La Neve discussed various discretionary measures available to a court when making contempt orders.

Rule 60 of the Rules of Civil Procedure was referenced, as well as the decision in Belanger v. McGrade Estate (2003), 65 O.R. (3d) 829 (Ont. S.C.J.).

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During Hull on Estates Episode 30, we discussed security for costs motions including the concepts involved in security for costs motions and the Courts awarding of security for costs motions.

We also discussed Rule 57 of the Rules of Civil Procedure in respect to costs and Rule 56 of the Rules of Civil Procedure in respect of security for costs motions.