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<title>Just Because You Say So Doesn&apos;t Make It So</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The approach taken in claims by or against the heirs, next of kin, executors, administrators or assigns of a deceased can differ from other types of legal proceedings simply because the requirements of Section 13 of the Ontario Evidence Act. Section 13 states:</p>
<p>In an action by or against the heirs, next of kin, executors, administrators or assigns of a deceased person, an opposite or interested party shall not obtain a verdict, judgment or decision on his or her own evidence in respect to any matter occurring before the death of the deceased person, unless such evidence is corroborated by some other material evidence.</p>
<p>In determining the nature of the evidence required then to prosecute or defend a claim, one must keep in mind that an adverse party cannot rely on his or her own evidence in respect of any matter occurring before the death of the deceased person, unless such evidence is corroborated by some other material evidence.</p>
<p>In other words, just because the adverse party says it is so, doesn&rsquo;t make it so. <br />
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Section 13 places this additional evidentiary burden on the adverse party understandably because of the estate&rsquo;s difficulty in defending an action without the oral evidence of the testator. In Burns Estate v. Mellon, the Court of Appeal held that the corroborating evidence must be in addition to and independent of the viva voce evidence of the adverse party; that additional evidence could be either direct or circumstantial though.</p>
<p>As such, attention to the evidence necessary to prove the case and how that evidence is to be marshalled is critical in these claims, whether that be by way of an Orders Giving Directions used to compel the production of documentation that others may have (ie. testamentary documents, medical records, solicitors records, financial records etc.), by way of an examination (ie. examinations for discovery, third party examinations or a de bene esse examination) or otherwise.<br />
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Focusing on the evidence that will be needed at trial or that will be persuasive in settlement discussions is but one of the first steps in formulating one&rsquo;s approach to a claim.</p>
<p>Canadian Olympic Medal Count: holding at 13 (but hopefully with several more to come).</p>
<p>Keep cheering, <br />
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Craig</p>
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<title>Karkus v. Cotroneo 2007 - Hull on Estates #93</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Listen to <a href="http://media.libsyn.com/media/kirsten/HOE_93_FINAL.mp3">Karkus v. Cotroneo 2007</a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This week on </span><st1:city><st1:place><span lang="EN-CA" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hull</span></st1:place></st1:city><span lang="EN-CA" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> on Estates, Paul Trudelle and Diane Vieira discuss the case of Karkus v. Cotroneo 2007. The case addresses many of the issues that estate lawyers face on a daily basis, such as: proving or disproving gifts, slander of title and the importance of corroborative evidence.<o:p></o:p></span></p>]]><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: #cbca98; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-outline-level: 2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 17pt; COLOR: #323c3c; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-font-kerning: 18.0pt"><font face="Times New Roman">Karkus v. Cotroneo 2007 - </font><a title="Permalink for Hull on Estate and Succession Planning Podcast #20 - Claims against the Estate" href="http://www.hullandhull.com/podcast/?p=139"><span style="COLOR: #333333; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none"><font face="Times New Roman">Hull on Estates Podcast #93 </font></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><span class="author"><span lang="EN-CA">Posted on </span></span><st1:date year="2008" day="15" month="1"><span class="author"><span lang="EN-CA">January 15<sup>th</sup>, 2008</span></span></st1:date><span class="author"><span lang="EN-CA"> by <a href="http://www.hullandhull.com/who_we_are.html">Hull &amp; Hull LLP</a></span></span><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-CA">Paul Trudelle: Hi and welcome to </span><st1:city><st1:place><span lang="EN-CA">Hull</span></st1:place></st1:city><span lang="EN-CA"> on Estates.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>You&rsquo;re listening to Episode 93 on </span><st1:date year="2008" day="15" month="1"><span lang="EN-CA">Tuesday, January 15<sup>th</sup>, 2008</span></st1:date><span lang="EN-CA">.</span></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span lang="EN-CA">Welcome to </span></em><st1:city><st1:place><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span lang="EN-CA">Hull</span></em></st1:place></st1:city><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span lang="EN-CA"> on Estates, a series of podcasts for the Canadian legal community dealing with issues and insights surrounding estate planning in </span></em><st1:country-region><st1:place><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span lang="EN-CA">Canada</span></em></st1:place></st1:country-region><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span lang="EN-CA">.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</span>Hosted by the lawyers of </span></em><st1:city><st1:place><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span lang="EN-CA">Hull</span></em></st1:place></st1:city><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span lang="EN-CA"> &amp; </span></em><st1:city><st1:place><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span lang="EN-CA">Hull</span></em></st1:place></st1:city><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span lang="EN-CA">, the podcast will touch on some key considerations when planning estates and Wills.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Now, here are today&rsquo;s hosts.<o:p></o:p></span></em></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Paul Trudelle: I&rsquo;m Paul Trudelle.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Paul Trudelle:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Hi Diane.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>How are you?</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Paul Trudelle:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Very good.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>This is our first podcast together and our first podcast of 2008, so I wish everyone a Happy New Year. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</span>And why don&rsquo;t we get into what we thought we would talk about today.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Diane Vieira:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Sure.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>This is an interesting case that deals with a lot of things that we deal with in our practice.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-CA">Paul Trudelle:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Yeah, the case is <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Karkus and Cotroneo</em>.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>It&rsquo;s a 2007 case, </span><st1:date year="2007" day="19" month="4" ls="trans"><span lang="EN-CA">April 19, 2007</span></st1:date><span lang="EN-CA">, out of the Ontario Superior Court of Justice.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>It&rsquo;s a decision of the Honourable Mr. Justice Sheppard.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And I thought that it would be great to talk about this case because it deals with a number of issues that we deal with day in and day out.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>It deals with issues such as gifts, proving a gift or disproving a gift, corroborative evidence required, remedies where there is a finding that there was no gift.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>It talks about resulting trusts, set-offs, slander of title, costs regarding Certificates of Pending Litigation when those are resorted to early in the litigation, and also costs of the litigation.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>So there&rsquo;s a lot in this relatively short case&hellip;11 pages&hellip;but I thought we would spend a little time going through some of those issues.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</span>Perhaps we can talk a bit about the background or the facts of the case.</span></font></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Diane Vieira:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Oh, sure.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>This is a case where the deceased died without a Will and her daughter was appointed the estate trustee.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>The deceased was a business woman and near the end of her life, her business had been failing so there was a number of creditors.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And her daughter, the estate trustee, who is the plaintiff in this action, was looking through her mother&rsquo;s financial records and an entry in her bank book showed a $65,000 transfer from her mother to her mother&rsquo;s boyfriend, who&rsquo;s the defendant in this case.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Paul Trudelle:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Right.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And I think just before we go on, I think the fact that the deceased was in some financial difficulty in her business, is an important factor that the Court relies on later on, so that&rsquo;s important to note.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Diane Vieira:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Later on, the defendant admits that he received the $65,000.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>His position is that this was a gift.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>The daughter&rsquo;s position is that this represents money that the defendant was holding on behalf of his mother.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>A little more explanation to that was that the $65,000 the defendant used to purchase a property.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And then on that property, the defendant&rsquo;s name is listed alone, but the property is listed as registered as being in trust.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Paul Trudelle:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>That&rsquo;s right.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And I think that&rsquo;s important as well.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>The Court deals with the resulting trust claim and looks at that factor, and we&rsquo;ll talk about that briefly in a second.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>So in essence the claim was by the estate for the return of the $65,000 and for a claim that the defendant held a property on a resulting trust and the estate had an interest in that property.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>The Court looked at the evidence with respect to the gift and before doing that, set out the test that is required and what the estate must argue or try to establish in order to show that there was a debt or resulting trust and what the defendant needs to show in order to prove that there was in fact a gift.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Diane Vieira:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>I just wanted to&hellip;another point of fact is where the $65,000 came from and when it was transferred.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>The deceased had sold her house and she was moving in&hellip;she moved in with her boyfriend, who is the defendant.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And the $65,000 represents the proceeds of the estate&hellip;the proceeds of the sale of the house, excuse me.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And the money wasn&rsquo;t gifted or transferred to the defendant until six or seven months later on, which is something that the Court reflected on.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Paul Trudelle:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>That&rsquo;s right. They looked at the fact that the parties had moved in together, the $65,000 was used to, in part, to purchase this house and make renovations that the plaintiff wanted.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>The Court considered the fact that the onus is on the defendant to prove, or the recipient to prove that this was a gift, there was no presumption that would work in his favour.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And in fact, the presumptions which aren&rsquo;t really referred to, would be the opposite, that there was a resulting trust or the money was owed back to the estate.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And the Court found ultimately that the defendant wasn&rsquo;t successful in proving that this was a gift.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>His evidence was that the money was used&hellip;was given to him to help with the purchase of the house and to pay for expenses and that was contrary to a finding of a gift.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Just another point on that - the Court refers to the evidence required in order to establish a claim by or against an estate and dealt with the issue of corroborative evidence.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Perhaps we can talk a bit about what corroborative evidence is required and what the rule is there.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Diana Vieira:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>With respect to corroborative evidence, Section 13 of the <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Evidence Act</em> requires that there be some corroboration of the material evidence.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And the onus is the civil litigation onus, but with corroboration.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And in this case, the judge and the Court had problems with the defendant and the plaintiff&rsquo;s evidence.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>He called that evidence unreliable.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Paul Trudelle:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Right.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>He felt that the evidence of the parties was of questionable credibility and in the absence of any corroborative evidence, he wasn&rsquo;t able to find that there was in fact a gift.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And as you mentioned, the Court referred to the burden on the defendant to prove it but said that there was also what he said was a healthy scepticism in addition to that.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Now there&rsquo;s other cases that talk about whether there&rsquo;s a higher burden on a party.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>The burden is still the civil burden but the Courts will look at these claims with some scepticism.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">So the result of the defendant&rsquo;s failure to prove that it was a gift meant that money was owing to the estate.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>The Court went on to deal with the issue of whether the estate had a trust claim against the defendant.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And the Court dismissed the trust claim for a number of reasons.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>The first reason, or one of the reasons was that in establishing a trust, there is case law to the effect that evidence of an illegal scheme will not be received to support a resulting trust.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And the illegal scheme that the Court referred to here was the fact that the monies were transferred by the deceased to the plaintiff probably for the purpose of avoiding creditors.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And as a result, they had&hellip;the Court had a difficult time in finding that the estate could rely on the doctrine of resulting trust in these circumstances.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>So how did the Court deal with the money owing to the estate then?</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Diane Vieira:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>The Court goes on to find that the defendant does owe money to the estate.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>It&rsquo;s a debt to the estate.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And he then goes on to discuss the concept of unjust enrichment.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Paul Trudelle:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Yeah, and the Court found that the money was owing to the estate and I guess the defendant had assets here.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>The Court felt that it wasn&rsquo;t necessary, in fact, to rely on the concept of trust or impose a trust over the property owned by the defendant.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>A judgment, a monetary judgment, was sufficient.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>You mentioned the unjust enrichment part of it and the Court talked a bit there about when they will find unjust enrichment in order to bring in the equitable remedy.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Diane Vieira:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Yes, the Court refers to the Supreme Court of Canada case, <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Peter vs. Bellow</em> and the three steps that are needed for a finding of unjust enrichment.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And all three were here in this case.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>There was an enrichment on behalf of the defendant receiving the $65,000 and a corresponding deprivation to the deceased, now the estate of the deceased, and then an absence for the reason of this enrichment.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Paul Trudelle:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Yeah, but having found all of those circumstances present, the Court still goes on to say that they won&rsquo;t impose the equitable remedy of a constructive trust.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>The Court refers to that Supreme Court of Canada decision and extracts a point to the effect that a monetary award would be the appropriate remedy in many cases, and that was the case here.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And the Court concludes that a monetary award is appropriate and makes an Order that the defendant pay back the $65,000 to the estate.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>However, he doesn&rsquo;t end there.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">Diane Vieira:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>No, it&rsquo;s&hellip;the Court goes on to find that the estate is not entitled to that full $65,000 because the defendant did provide something in the excess of $20,000 in renovations to the house.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And if the deceased&rsquo;s $65,000 was in a gift to the defendant, then the money that he contributed to the relationship was also not a gift.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span></font></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Diane Vieira:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Yes, the Court found that the plaintiffs did not&hellip;didn&rsquo;t have a credible position to have had that Certificate of Pending Litigation registered.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And consequently they awarded the money that the defendant had spent on removing that Certificate, credited back to the defendant.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Paul Trudelle:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>That&rsquo;s right.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And finally, on the issue of costs of the action itself, the Court considered the fact that the plaintiff had some success, made recovery for the estate.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>However, it didn&rsquo;t establish its claim for resulting trust.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>The Court also felt that the evidence of the witnesses was unreliable to a certain extent and in fact in some parts the judge said that in some parts, the evidence was fabricated.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>And as a consequence of that he ordered that there be no order as to costs, and each party had to bear its own costs.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Well, I think that&rsquo;s an interesting case on a number of grounds.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>We&rsquo;ve touched on a few of the points that the case deals with.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>I recommend the case highly to anyone dealing with those types of situations where there are gifts, where you&rsquo;re considering a claim for a resulting trust, an interesting counterclaim where you&rsquo;re faced with a claim for the return of a gift or money advanced on the basis of benefits provided to the deceased, and also considerations for dealing with Certificates of Pending Litigation and the costs that may be involved in that.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-CA"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Well thank you very much, Diane.</font></span></p>
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